Social Search For Business: Where Should It Go?

Recently I’ve been experimenting with a couple of new social search engines.  The three I’ve found most useful are OneRiotSamePoint, and SocialMention.  All have their strengths and weaknesses but don’t quite give me what I am looking for to help a businesses connect with potential customers more efficiently.

The one that is closest to what I’m looking for is OneRiot.  It appears that you can type in a term and using their Pulse search function you are provided with a snapshot of who is talking about the subject matter you are looking for.  However, the data provided does not tell much other than who is talking about the subject matter, the quantity and where.  For business purposes, it is important to know quantity of mentions on specific terms and the web properties like, Twitter, Digg, etc. but also to understand the influence factor of who is saying what.  I know that to accomplish that has to be very difficult algorythmic wise.  But, this is something that many of the search monitoring tools like Sysomos, Radian6 and ScoutLabs have figured out.

OneRiot’s design is very clean and user-friendly as well as SocialMention.  SamePoint, needs better design but usability wise seems to have everything laid out ok.  Both, SocialMention and SamePoint are going for the vertical search approach i.e. Blog, MicroBlogs, Networks, etc.  This is cool if you’re trying to measure these categories however, if you are a company looking for efficiency and where best to engage in conversation you want to go where the people are.

In terms of Search vs. Software Monitoring tools, meaning social search engines compared to social monitoring software tools, right now I would lean more toward the tools.  I currently don’t see the capability with any of the engines to set queries that I’ve done in order to keep the data flowing to me.  Further, how as a business could I continue to grow a knowledgebase for specific business use.

Seems to be more about the business model?  Search is more about find things quickly and to me social search should be more about finding people and what they’re involved in.  How influential are they?  What are they involved in?  What determines their rank?  Ok, so how are these people ranked just as in key terms in regular search?

Right now, if you do a search in OneRiot for “economist” you get an article returned for The Economist on Purchasing Power, The Big Mac index.  OK?

The article has received 2,465 Total Shares:  1880 Diggs, 252 Tweets,  and 333 OneRiot Shares.  This tells me that this article has basically been shared a lot or Dugg alot.  Doing the same query on Social Mention in “All” crashes.  Doing the query in “Blogs” returns an NYTimes article about German Business Confidence being up.  And, SamePoint returns a wikipedia article on the general overview of what an economist is.

Are you thinking what I am?  How do I use these engines to my benefit?  What do you think about where social search should be going?

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  • http://www.rjamestaylor.com rjamestaylor

    Nice distinction re: “Search” for information versus “Social Search” for finding people. One is linear, predictive, other is serendipitous…

  • http://SocialMediaAndInteractiveMarketingBlog Jason Cronkhite

    Thanks James. As luck would have it, eh? Question: if you were to use a Social Search engine how would you want it to find people for you? What else do you think it should do?

  • http://www.rjamestaylor.com rjamestaylor

    Early social searches, IMHO, were based on finding known people online. Eventually, searching progressed to finding unknown people who shared traits – usually by establishing a meeting place such as BBS forums, Bitnet Relay channels, CompuServ forums, AOL chat rooms, etc. – and having conversations. These attracted “birds of a feather” but also allowed easy access for the unscrupulous to troll or prey on innocents (e.g., “A/S/L?” ~ the desperate question of 40-something losers pretending to be 13 yr olds…): something had to be better. Next came the controlled search services that required some kind of registration and questionnaire to participate — usually to find a date or former classmate. These “match.com” or “eharmony.com” type services provided more assurance that one could find the type of person they were looking to meet, but this was limited to a one-on-one (usually!) type connection – not really social. Next the degrees of separation services came available — services like LinkedIn and Facebook. Better at weeding out the phonies (just ask someone in the counter-intelligence community!) these depend on the who you know, where you've been and is thus limited in scope. Perhaps most people are happy with this limitation. However, the ability to search public comments, self-created connections (Follows), to see who is subscribing to someone's posts as Twitter allows grants a rich “social dataset” that is ripe for serendipitous data mining. Yet, the search tools available are quite limited at this point. In my thinking, the development real-time, data-rich search of Twitter and Twitter-like services will yield the next evolution in Social Search. And it will be based less on what you say about yourself and more on what you _do_ and who chooses to connect to and interact with you.

    Ok, I didn't answer your question, but it's late and I don't want to look the above. :)

  • http://SocialMediaAndInteractiveMarketingBlog Jason Cronkhite

    Robert James Taylor, that's a fantastic overview and great insight. Looking forward to you answer =) . I personally would like to see Social Search display social graphs and provide influence metrics per genre or niche categories that people are involved in. This could be extremely helpful in many ways. For instance, say your child has a rare form of brain cancer and you want to seek out cancer specialists but you're limited to the off-line human referral network whereas 5 other people across the world are dealing with the same issue and Dr. John Smith in Chicago happens to be “The Man” to go to for this rare form of cancer. Dr. Smith regularly publishes information on his own site, has been reviewed by various medical institutions and has about 15 other patients he's helped and they have attributed Dr. Smith work to be exemplary. You are able to find this person through an advance social search engine.

    Now, this begs the question: what set's social search apart from search we are used to using today? The human connection to the doctor, attribution, positive testimonial of patients?

  • http://twitter.com/acharoo Andre Charoo

    You said it perfectly, “social search is based on people's knowledge and being able to capture it.” And, I don't think any of the current engines out in the market do a great job. I agree with rjamestaylor comment that it's going to be less “what you say about yourself and more on what you do and who chooses to connect to and interact with you.” We need ways to track our influence online. Social search should be about knowing the influence of the people around you. Although we have hundreds and even thousands of friends on Facebook and contacts on LinkedIn, when we have questions that our friends can't answer, we still don't know which friends can help put us in touch with the right people? Why? We really don't know the true influence that our friends command. I'm a co-founder of a startup called Viewpointr (http://www.viewpointr.com) that is trying solve this.

  • http://SocialMediaAndInteractiveMarketingBlog Jason Cronkhite

    Andre,

    Very cool. Obviously I agree with you. If I can help during the private
    beta let me know. You guys have a great story and I think you're closer
    than you've ever been with the 3rd iteration – persistence is the key :-)
    … You guys need a demo video to show and explain what you're doing.

    I'd love to experiment and provide you some feedback for what its worth.
    You should watch this video and let me know what you think:
    http://mixergy.com/so-what-magnacca/ .

    Jason